Showing posts with label equallogic versus lefthand. Show all posts
Showing posts with label equallogic versus lefthand. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 3, 2012

The questions continue, EqualLogic versus Lefthand HP P4500

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/396380?tstart=0


I can't comment on the Lefthand or cross-site functionality of either.  What I can say is that I managed a 100TB EMC Unified shop and the 30TB Equalogic we used for iSCSI was 100x more reliable and easier to work with.  Ultimately, we used the Equalogic whenever we had the opportunity, and the EMC's sat there doing nothing.

Equalogic is a solid SMB platform.

With the lefthand there are 2 types of protection going on. The first is the Raid level inside a single node (this is standard raid accross the disks in that node, usually Raid1 or Raid5)

When you add a second node on the same site, you can setup network raid. this mirrors a lun to both nodes, so if a Node fails, the lun can continue to be presented to the servers.

when you add the remote site nodes into the network raid, that lun is also mirrored to the remote site nodes, so you effectively end up with 4 copies of the data.

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For the EQL box, whilst there is only 1 node each site, those node are more resilient at the hardware level. the disks in the node will be raided, and their are 2 physical controllers in each node. If a controller fails the node will switch to the other one.

If you add a second node on the local site with EqualLogic, and add it to the Group all luns are stripped between the 2 nodes, increasing performance.

Friday, March 9, 2012

Interesting post about HP versus Dell in the worldwide storage market

http://www.4-traders.com/GARTNER-INC-12710/news/GARTNER-INC-Gartner-Says-Worldwide-External-Controller-Based-Disk-Storage-Market-Grew-4-8-Percent-in-14207137/


ompany4Q11
Revenue
4Q11 Market Share (%)4Q10
Revenue
4Q10 Market Share (%)4Q10-4Q11
Change (%)
EMC11,937.232.71,602.028.320.9
IBM977.316.5984.417.4-0.7
NetApp3619.610.5556.59.811.3
Hitachi/HDS2558.19.4521.89.26.9
HP555.69.4581.110.3-4.4
Dell417.07.0411.47.31.4


Dell up 1.4 % with HP down -4.4, with Dell and HP pretty close in revenue.

Friday, July 15, 2011

HP LH 4000 versus Equallogic forum response

From

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/72924-gah-lefthand-san-or-equallogic-any-thoughts?page=2#entry-830476


When my company looked into getting a SAN appliance we were basically on the fence between equalogic and lefthand. We eventually settled on LeftHand. I think our deciding factor was the cost to a virtual san appliance for another office of ours. I'm not sure if equalogic has that feature and the sales reps were much worse than the sales rep for lefthand.
After about a year of use though, and the fact that we use Dell products for pretty much everything else, every time i have to call LeftHand/HP support I deeply regret our decision. I don't think I've spent any less time than 3 hours on the phone with them with 2.5 of those hours being hold. Once I get a tech they are knowledgeable and helpful which is good though. I am much happier with Dell support in general though.

Friday, June 17, 2011

A case for VSA, lefthand or maybe someone elses?

http://www.networkcomputing.com/deduplication/230800077


Of course, using vMotion requires shared storage, and there we hit a snag. My first choice, EqualLogic arrays, are just too expensive for this environment. Even a low-end disk array like an HP MSA or Dell MD3200 would cost more than $10,000 with six 300-GByte SAS drives, and that’s for a single controller model. Going to a dual controller system, which of course the enterprise storage guy inside me says is required, would add another $3,500 or so.
But if I installed a VSA with synchronous mirroring, like HP’s P4000 (Lefthand), StoreMagic, Falconstor NSS or Starwind HA, in each server, I could leverage the built-in RAID controllers, eliminate the storage controller as a single point of failure and theoretically improve reliability by storing two copies of all the data.
On the down side, I’ll give up some performance and host resources to the replication, but Dr. George’s I/O requirements are pretty light, and we have CPU to burn in the new config. Now I just have to choose a solution.

Wednesday, June 15, 2011

LeftHand, how to write to a snapshot

http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1307632541976+28353475&threadId=1482976

I'm a relative newbie to working with the P4000s so I am cutting my teeth with the VSA appliance.

I am testing how snaphots work, and I have successfully taken and connected to the snapshot by adding in the new ISCSI name of the snapshotted volume in the windows iscsi initiator. I have assigned the server read/write access as well, and the disk is available in computer management etc. All good, however when i try to write a file to the snapshotted disk, I get an access denied error. I've done a google, and some folk say snapshots are read only, but I am confused by the fact that I can assign a server read/write to access to the snapshot, this implies that I should be able to write to it!

Have I done something wrong or is this the way it works. And if so, is there a sneaky way I can get write access to the snapshot?

Wednesday, May 25, 2011

A fairly unhappy LH customer

From


http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/140475-iscsi-virtual-appliances?page=1#entry-768652


HP P4000 is technically a software SAN (you can buy it as a license, and install it yourself). While they are the only VSA that supports VAAI, I would never deploy one again. Crazy things like it automatically creates a new target for every LUN, use of a single virtual IP for all targets, makes management a pain in the ass. GUI is slow as hell, and its an overpriced linux system that isn't that well built or supported (8 hours after I logged a critical ticket I got a voicemail at 10pm saying "hey we're kinda busy today, give us a call back tomr if your still down").

Thursday, June 10, 2010

This is an interesting post from a LH user

http://itsdrivingmenuts.blogspot.com/2010/04/lefthand-san-hp.html

Don't know what his final decision was, but it shows his decision making process.

Monday, August 31, 2009

Interesting Post

I liked this post, it refers to Equallogic and Lefthand as two rival players being drafted to two rival NFL teams. These two teams really seem to go neck and neck a lot!

http://thesantechnologist.com/?p=198

Wednesday, August 19, 2009

Recent LeftHand SAN post

I find it very interesting that both these posts mentioned the console crashing

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Data-Storage/HP-LeftHand-P4300-48TB-SAS-Starter-SAN-Solution-Builds-a-Strong-iSCSI-SAN-Foundation-804648/1/

The only problem I ran into was that occasionally the console wouldn't start and I needed to terminate the javaw.exe process in Task Manager before restarting the console.

Anyways, in the Eweek article he liked the Idea of the architecture of the LeftHand SAN. He also received a dud of a unit, this is what he wrote.

The second server started, but failed to recognize the array controller and therefore didn’t boot completely.

Of course, the first thing I did then was take the server apart, at which point I noticed that the board containing the SAN/iQ software had fallen off of the P400 RAID controller—obviously a casualty of rough handling during shipping. Popping it back on did not solve the problem, but after an e-mail and a quick call, a new controller and a third server were on their way. After I installed the new controller, the server booted up smoothly.

Later on he ended up having a little bit of a support problem, he wrote




He was also unable to set up the SMTP for sending alerts to his email address.

He was impressed by the performance and by the management of the device.



Monday, August 3, 2009

LeftHand UI, take 2

As featured on WindowsITPro

http://windowsitpro.com/Windows/article/articleid/102478/hp-lefthand-p4300-48tb-sas-starter-san-solution.html

His take on the UI
The SAN/iQ software really sets this product in a class by itself and is the easiest SAN management software I've ever used. You don't need to be a storage expert or have to look up confusing storage terms like LUN Masking to configure the SAN. Instead, you use a series of easy-to-use wizards to perform the initial setup and configuration. You can rerun the wizards at any time.
That is the sort of UI I am looking for! Someone should get him an EqualLogic box and see which he likes better :)

He actually attached a rare screen shot of the SAN/iQ software :)

His only complaint
The only problem I ran into was that occasionally the console wouldn't start and I needed to terminate the javaw.exe process in Task Manager before restarting the console.

Thursday, July 30, 2009

Just ran across this InfoTec document LeftHand Vs. EqualLogic

This is one of their sample reports but has some interesting points.

http://www.infotech.com/samples/LeftHand_vs_EqualLogic.pdf

Or here

Here are a couple of call outs.

Info-Tech has found that for those enterprises looking to acquire a clustered iSCSI solution, EqualLogic and LeftHand Networks are often in a dead heat. Both have similar price ranges and features. Both have benefitted from x86 server virtualization and continue to partner with VMware and others to enhance virtual infrastructures.
What usually tips the decision toward one or the other is a preference for how each implements storage clustering. EqualLogic’s storage units are more comprehensive while LeftHand Networks’ approach is more hardware agnostic and granular.

Then here is the crux

EqualLogic’s PS arrays have larger capacities as well as full hardware redundancy in each box. An enterprise can start with a single PS array and have a complete storage solution including capacity, management features, and hardware redundancy. EqualLogic often wins in a showdown with LeftHand because the buyers feel more comfortable with a full featured hardware solution ready to go out of the box.

LeftHand’s
SAN/iQ makes an individual server into a building block for a storage solution. A single “brick” can serve as a storage target, but to achieve hardware redundancy at least two bricks are required. This increases the upfront cost of the entry level. On the plus side, SAN/iQ can run on a variety of industry standard servers as well as a virtual machine – entry level SAN functionality can be provided to a virtual infrastructure without buying additional hardware.

EqualLogic

With a year head start, Dell is further along in integrating EqualLogic into its products. Dell is making iSCSI a centerpiece of its storage offerings for mid-sized enterprises and EqualLogic PS-series products are the flagship. For example, when Dell rolled out new products for supporting virtual infrastructures in September 2008, the processing component was Dell server blades while the storage component was EqualLogic PS-series arrays. Dell also continues to sell more traditional storage arrays co-branded with EMC.

LeftHand

HP will be integrating LeftHand into its StorageWorks products. How LeftHand will fit into the overall strategy for HP is still a question mark. How will HP balance this new option – a server based clustered storage approach – against its existing traditional storage array business?

And the conclusion

Both vendors share in common a scalable clustered architecture, ease of installation and management, and a robust feature set. However, EqualLogic’s appeal is in providing a comprehensive solution in a hardware appliance. LeftHand’s strength is in providing a more agnostic basic building block for creating robust storage clusters. The software can even run on a VM to turn direct attached storage into a virtual SAN.

What does Information World think of EqualLogic and LeftHand

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/12/450_lbs_of_love.html;jsessionid=05AYVKJQXXCC0QSNDLRSKH0CJUNN2JVN?queryText=lefthand

They wrote:

Long-time readers know that a Dell (Dell) iSCSI array currently lies at the heart of our virt lab. Our December wishes came true when Dell offered us not one, but two updated arrays just in time for the holidays.
And then he wrote

We were able to add the two new devices to our existing EqualLogic SAN in a few minutes via the array management web interface. Dell's tools detected the new arrays, I entered IP and iSCSI info, and we ware ready to allocate the new raw storage in no time at all.

The hardest part of adding 52.8 terabytes of storage to the lab? Unpacking the crates.

The most laborious? Inserting the 48 SATA drives and re-installing the 16 SAS drives.

I remember when setting up robust, complex storage solution used to be a multi-day exercise in masocism. Now it's an afternoon of straightforward, honest work.

Once again another plug for the simplicity and elegance of EqualLogic!

In another post he talks about the coolness of using LeftHands VSA
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/02/no_free_lunch.html;jsessionid=05AYVKJQXXCC0QSNDLRSKH0CJUNN2JVN?queryText=lefthand
The pitch: no physical SAN required 'cause the VSA reclaims 'unused' storage in ESX boxes as a SAN. I still think this is a novel approach for smaller shops to benefit from ESX; external storage arrays (Fibre Channel or iSCSI) can be scary to the uninitiated. Build up a couple ESX hosts, load them up with internal storage and let the SAN/IQ software magically create a virtual storage area network. I can't imagine you'd want to run the dataset for a large transactional system on the same box as your hosted VMs, but it would probably address an SMB's needs (the target market) with no fuss.

EqualLogic a good buy for Dell

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/29/dell_equallogic_excels/

EqualLogic sales are up 71% versus overall storage revenues down 17 % year on year (for dell)

Dell said that the EqualLogic storage business is now four times larger than when it was acquired in November 2007 for $1.4bn. At that time, EqualLogic was looking like a $100m/year revenue company, implying a $400m/year revenue run rate now.
I haven't seen a similar post from HP but I have been searching for how the purchase of LH has gone for them.

This post kind of echoes my findings

With all the talk about FCoE and NFS it seems that iSCSI has become the odd man out. All reports indicate that Dell continues to do well with the EqualLogic acquisition but what Hewlett-Packard is doing with its LeftHand Networks purchase remains unclear. Don’t count iSCSI out yet, though -- companies are planning iSCSI storage solutions aimed right at the SME market.


Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Spiceworks EqualLogic versus LeftHand thread

This is a thread where I asked for whether people would choose EqualLogic or LeftHand

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/72924

It's pretty interesting!

ESRP Equallogic Versus Lefthand

Not a completely Apples to Apples comparison and I haven't had time to dive in but here is a LeftHand ESRP document

http://sites.google.com/site/mellerbeck/Home/ESRPLeftHand_saniq_50000_user_exchange2007_091707.pdf?attredirects=0

And an equallogic ESRP doc

http://sites.google.com/site/mellerbeck/Home/ESRP-EqualLogic-PS5000XV-90000-Users..pdf?attredirects=0

Of course as this post mentions, ESRP reports are not really meant to compare systems.

http://blogs.netapp.com/shadeofblue/2008/10/lumpy-dell-and.html

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